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Los Angeles Hoo

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I'd say it's funny that the Dems flipped when...


...a flailing Hillary Clinton needed a pre-election smear against her opponent in 2016, so she hired a foreign spy to fabricate a dossier against Trump using Russian sources and then laundered it through treasonous Clinton-friendlies in the US intel community and Fake News to create the Trump-Russia Collusion Fraud that persists to this day on the rekt left.

America has been forever after wrecked as a result, as the left half the country has completely lost its mind on both Trump and Russia, taking us step by step toward WWIII with the latter because they can't get out of the intellectual hole they dug for themselves in trying to take down Orange Man Bad.

As for you, I can't say. My view on post-Soviet Russia has always been that we should be realistic about them ("trust but verify" redux), but try to build a friendship to the extent possible, as they are natural allies, and I'd rather them be in our corner than China's. Clinton's effort at detente -- which wasn't really detente, as the Bush admin had fairly decent relations with Putin/Russia before the Obama admin came to be -- was the right move, and while Obama's mockery of Romney in that debate was childish and over-the-top, Obama was right in that Russia was not our biggest threat in 2012, nor is it today.

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Posted: 04/07/2024 at 7:42PM



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  I remember like it was yesterday… -- Los Angeles Hoo 04/07/2024 6:58PM
  Yes -- WaxHoo 04/07/2024 7:51PM
  Oh? Who was running Russia back then? ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 04/07/2024 8:27PM
  So who’s folding now?** -- FxHoo 04/07/2024 9:06PM
  Folding? ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 04/07/2024 9:45PM
  Pssst…didn’t you get the memo? -- SixerHoo 04/08/2024 10:01AM
  It’s 🌲. ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 04/08/2024 09:46AM
  Mueller. Senate Intel. Helsinki. ** -- SixerHoo 04/08/2024 09:49AM
  You are aware that Russia hacked the DNC right? -- CMUHoo 04/07/2024 8:10PM
  No, we know they already had hacked the DNC -- CMUHoo 04/08/2024 1:18PM
  Yes, of course ** -- HokieDan95 04/08/2024 1:22PM
  MY thread? ** -- JMHoo 04/08/2024 06:57AM
  Sure. And then there is... -- Los Angeles Hoo 04/07/2024 9:48PM
  No. When Putin acts to help Trump = Truth. -- CMUHoo 04/08/2024 07:40AM
  I shared the link just to show you that… -- Los Angeles Hoo 04/08/2024 09:56AM
  💩 post ** -- Hoodeac 04/07/2024 10:30PM
  Neo-communist sympathizer. -- Chuck Taylor 04/07/2024 11:08PM
  💩 post ** -- Hoodeac 04/07/2024 8:40PM
  I'd say it's funny that the Dems flipped when... -- Los Angeles Hoo 04/07/2024 7:42PM
  💩 post ** -- Hoodeac 04/07/2024 8:03PM
  "natural allies"? Based on what? -- CMUHoo 04/07/2024 7:46PM
  I don't care what they say because this whole... -- Los Angeles Hoo 04/07/2024 8:25PM
  Not any chance of being natural allies. -- Chuck Taylor 04/08/2024 07:51AM
  Russia is not in any way, shape or form… -- Los Angeles Hoo 04/08/2024 12:44AM
  Putin's ally begs to differ -- CMUHoo 04/08/2024 08:31AM
  That's different, I guess? And somehow ok? ** -- CMUHoo 04/08/2024 09:58AM
  The claim I responded to was that… -- Los Angeles Hoo 04/08/2024 10:17AM
  The problem is Russia doesn’t want to be our ally -- WahooMatt05 04/07/2024 9:26PM
  Interestingly, "pro-Putin" is not what they said -- CMUHoo 04/07/2024 8:49PM
  💩 post ** -- Hoodeac 04/07/2024 8:41PM
  Welcome to the present. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 04/07/2024 7:09PM
  You can just write “That’s different” next time. ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 04/07/2024 7:19PM
  Eh, my hero oversaw four years of Russia... -- Los Angeles Hoo 04/07/2024 8:39PM
  Why would he, when Trump is in his pocket? ** -- Seattle .Hoo 04/07/2024 9:22PM
  If MAGA were capable of embarrassment.... ** -- Shenhoo 04/07/2024 6:15PM
  Yes. ** -- WaxHoo 04/07/2024 5:36PM

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